Mysterylights Group Message 0406

Subject: Re: Hi guys and Wiltshire
From: "sean_b_palmer" <sean@...>
Date: 08 Apr 2006 13:11

On Sat Apr 8, 2006 12:06 am, "Paul Hailey" wrote: 

> yes there are earthlight traditions in Wales, I think 
> its at Nevern, and at Egryn.

I didn't know about Nevern, unless that's connected with all the
nearby St. Bride's Bay activity. I've only been able to find a couple
of things online about anomalous lights seen at Nevern: 

"1991: Paul Devereux, notes, The Ley Hunter 115: 11 - Death candles 
used to be seen at Nevern. The area is now known for earth lights."


"The writer has seen crop circles in nearby fields and 'earthlights' 
have been reported from the village of Nevern. [...] The local 
newspaper reported these lights as UFOs, but older people in the 
village said they knew about them as children. Then they were 
called 'corpse candles' and were an omen of death."


And nothing that I can see talking about Nevern by name in any of the
Earth Lights literature I've got, giving it a quick skim. How do you
know about this particular village?

(I could really do with a full set of The Ley Hunter back issues, it
seems--there are quite a few earth lights related articles that I'm
sure I'm missing out on.)

> I seem to remember Egryn (the 'fault' of Deveraux fame) 
> was early 1920's mostly

From "December 1904 to July 1905", says Devereux (ELR, p.64).

> and when I went past 2 years ago someone had bought the 
> chapel to live in, and a builder was renovating it.

Ooh, interesting. That's the Egryn Chapel, right, not the church at
Llanfair? Funny how alike those two chapels look. That'd be a nice
acquisition for a seriously devoted earth lights researcher.

As well as these areas, of course, there's also the Denbighshire
sightings, and the Hafren forest west of Llanidloes--the green desert.

> Its not Wales thats not interesting, its Wiltshire that's more 
> interesting, mainly because I used to see 'lights' relatively
> frequently


> Lights I've seen are probably quasi sentient, that's my interest 
> really, because either they are remotely driven from planet zog, 
> or there's a small green guy inside, or they are a type of light 
> manifestation with marginal awareness, wot I never knew about.

Yeah, plenty of people mention that aspect. I wonder if the old maxim
that you cited via Tom Graves the dowser couldn't have a modified
variant: "nature, if sufficiently bizarre, appears to be magic".

> Thats what interests me... the age old link between humans 
> and the phenomena.. and the physical reality of phenomena 
> not accountable for by ordinary science theory.

Yeah, I like that aspect too. I don't think I mention ley lines or any
earth mysteries or geomancy stuff at all in the materials that I've
compiled on anomalous lights, but I'm always aware of its being there.

I really respect the original publications of Alfred Watkins because
he strikes me as a very talented amateur hobbyist, in the old British
tradition; he had some data through intimate knowledge of the land
what with his primary interest of photography, and he found patterns
in it to which he then applied Ockham's Razor to come up with a
possible explanation. That's very cool.

His toponymic study especially interests me since I like that sort of
thing, but I have a feeling that his folk etymologies are probably
very wide of the mark compared to contemporary information about the
origins of those place names. I'm sure that somebody's been through
that already, checking, but I'd sorta like to do that myself too.


Sean B. Palmer

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