Subject: Re: Spook Lights in Alabama
From: "James Bunnell" <jamesb50@...>
Date: 18 May 2004 16:58
Hi Magical: Thanks for the reply. I have a five mega pixel digital camera, Sony F707, but have found it (and other digitals) are a poor choice for night time photography because they cannot tolerate over 30 seconds of exposure and images tend to become noisy when exposed too long. As a result I have stayed with film which produces good detailed images at around 2 megabytes each but these images do not seem to have any evidence of absorption lines. Sounds like I may be missing something here. Please elaborate Thanks much. You may contact me at jamesb50@... to eliminate this public exchange. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Magical Nexus" <magicalnexus@...> To: <mysterylights@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 3:13 PM Subject: Re: [mysterylights] Spook Lights in Alabama > Hi James, > > Let me address the light spectra question first.... a camera with high resolution, at 5mpixels or higher (stronger is better) will provide discernable absorption lines to analyze, it has been tried and tested already. Same goes for the analog system I described...so we know this from experience and have conducted analysis on some captures already. You can try it yourself.... I shot analyzable spectra of Venus, military SAM countermeasures, flares as well as anomalous light phenomena and they have all been productive... I am trying to build a library of captures as we speak to provide comparative analysis. > > Regarding the locations, I don't want to go through a list of sites on a public list. The site I mentioned in the last email is protected by a court injunction though Teodorani and Strand should be releasing a paper on that location shortly.....this site is still used by Native Americans and while we gained access to it we are not interested in making a "Mecca" out of it. > > Magical > > James Bunnell <jamesb50@...> wrote: > Hi Magical: > > I found your response to Aaron interesting and have questions: > (1) Where are you observing your mystery lights? > (2) With regard to light spectra: Obtaining spectra is not too difficult > but extracting useful information regarding chemical makeup requires > identification of absorption lines. They will not show using the method you > suggested and without them identification of elements is not possible. How > do you go about teasing out the absorption lines? Computer manipulation of > the image won't do it. > > Thanks, > > Orbofmystery > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Magical Nexus" <magicalnexus@...> > To: <mysterylights@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 9:02 PM > Subject: Re: [mysterylights] Spook Lights in Alabama > > > > Hi Aaron, > > > > I have seen similar displays in AZ and in So.Cal. Same basic description, > a rust orange sphere 3-4 ft in diameter. > > > > Interestingly enough, similar descriptions can be found describing these > phenomena that are not so location specific. Orange spheres have been > reported by airline crews at altitude, ground observers describe them > transiting over cities - Casa Grande area South of Phoenix is one such place > as I recall. > > > > With respect to protocols I would suggest that you examine the work of > Erling Strand www.hessdalenproject.org and especially the work of Massimo > Teodorani and the EMBLA team www.itacomm.net > > > > Preparing relevent photographs involves using a camera as a spectroscope > to acquire optical spectra that can be examined to identify constituent > components of the lights. You need a high resolution digital camera - > 5mpixels or stronger or a 35mmSLR with a 210mm lens, daylight settings, no > flash, manual shutter if possible. Acquire a piece of holographic > diffraction grating (Edmund Scientific sells sheets of it for 8 bucks a > pop), cut it to fit the outer lens of your camera. > > > > When shooting, always test your film against a known light source so that > its responsiveness can be tested - same basic concept for ccd in digital. > > > > Once you have a capture on film, get it developed. Note all technical > details and provide it and the test shot to either an expert in, say, mass > spectrometer work, a chemist or even myself, and some determination might be > made about the constituents of the lights. > > > > Ideally one would have several of these cameras and several observers > (triangulation) - the drawback is that this is primarily a night time > technique. I have heard that these orange lights occur in daylight as well. > > > > In the location I have been watching there are several kinds of lights and > anomalous occurances. They range from yellow-white, to green, red, and blue. > There are also highly reflective presences and even once a very unusual > display that seemed alot like lightning but was quite pronounced in its > shape and behavior (very unlightning-like). > > > > There is alot of work that can be done in this area and the prime > requisite is a combination of critical thinking and active data collection. > I am certain that we are documenting phenomena that are very poorly > understood though they have been around forever. > > > > I am aware of one site that is covered in rock art, some of it quite old > (5K years) and seeming to represent the phenomena. The native interest in > this particular site is quite interesting.... > > > > Anyway, hope this helps... > > > > Magical Nexus > > > > Aaron Cox <wyattknows@...> wrote: > > thanks for the quick reply > > > > > > There is an area in north western Alabama where I and > > two friends have viewed these Spook Lights on > > different occassions. The first time was in 1977. > > The last time was last year. > > > > Because I no longer live nearby, I have less > > opportunity to observe them. They have been seen in > > this area for more than three decades. > > > > I have also interviewed witnesses who have seen them > > up close - a few hundred feet away. They are > > typically a fairly bright orange globe that are about > > 6-8 feet in diameter. Each sighting varies, but it > > is common for the object to be in sight for about 2-3 > > minutes. > > > > Anyway, I am trying to gather information about other > > Spook Lights which are similar to this one. > > > > I would be interested in knowing what the > > investigative protocols are. > > > > Thanks > > > > Wyatt > > --- Magical Nexus <magicalnexus@...> wrote: > > > I am not certain what you are asking for..... sounds > > > like you know of a location already. I am aware of > > > over 70 locations around the globe where folks claim > > > anomalous light phenomena occur. I just got back > > > from a week on a site documenting unusual lights. > > > > > > I will say that there are a band of locations across > > > the Southern US and Northern Mexico extending from > > > So. Cal all the way to Florida where unusual light > > > phenomena have been documented, so I wouldn't be > > > surprized if they occured in Alabama also. > > > > > > The trick is to do something more than photograph > > > them.... film and pics are nice but nobody really > > > considers them of any use as scientific validation > > > if offered alone as "proof". If you were to follow > > > strict protocols and use a variety of sensing > > > devices as well as take pictures that have > > > scientific value, you might be contributing to the > > > sum total of knowledge about so-called Earthlights. > > > > > > Magical Nexus > > > > > > wyattknows <wyattknows@...> wrote: > > > Conducting research about Spook Lights in Alabama. > > > Any info would > > > be appreciated. 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