Subject: Re: Earthlights
From: Magical Nexus <magicalnexus@...>
Date: 29 Dec 2003 21:55
Hi James, Hopefully you have recieved the doc regarding Massimo, I can arrange an introduction if you lik[...] The spherical anomaly was filmed against distant topography, farthest estimate of 1.5 miles. Be[...] I also witnessed orange spherical lights in aproximately the same area at night... Magical Nexus James Bunnell <jamesb50@...> wrote: Hi Magical: Assuming for a moment that the sphere was a mile away, what would you estimate its size to have been? How high above the ground was it and was it remaining stationary or did it move? How long was it in view? I gather from the "fifteenth of a second" estimate that you were using video with so many frames per second. Did it disappear between one frame and the next? I am not aware of studies by Teodorani. It is a little surprising that anything that sensational would not be getting more attention. James -------Original Message------- From: mysterylights@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, December 29, 2003 9:32:39 PM To: mysterylights@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [mysterylights] Earthlights Hi James, The spherical object was filmed by a fellow researcher, we estimate at about a mile range. It simply disappeared in about a fifteenth of a second. It was reflective, I think - there were angular surface features but I can't be certain that they weren't reflections from the ground. I hesitate to use the word object for several reasons including the way it disappeared. It seemed to extend a tendril behind itself, from the top, and implode. Until it disappeared it seemed to be a smooth, sphere - like a drop of mercury suspended in zero gravity... The lights are generally round though we have seen blobs of orange light that look alot like the captures on Lake Ontario. I think that night time makes the observations more visible, though we have seen lights during daylight hours. The location is remote and quite inhospitable. I will wait to disclose the state it is located in until Teodorani's team have published their initial studies....again, are you aware of the studies by Teodorani? I am still curious how a local population can be aware of these phenomena but the information remains isolated. My own discussion with locals reveals a combination of fear and apathy that seems unusual.. Magical Nexus James Bunnell <jamesb50@...> wrote: Hi Magical: Wow! That really is unusual and sounds unlike the phenomenon I have been investigating. Apparently the lights and objects you describe manifest during daylight hours as well as at night. Are the reflective shapes regular geometric shapes or irregular is shape? Are the sides smooth or jagged? Are these lights and objects more likely to be seen at any particular time of the day or night? Can you tell me what state they are located in? I gather this must be a remote area else it would have been covered up with people long ago. Please tell me more. James ----- Original Message ----- From: "Magical Nexus" <magicalnexus@...> To: <mysterylights@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [mysterylights] Earthlights > Hi James, > Phenomena at the location I have been examining manifest around the clock and, as I mentioned, demonstrate a variety of appearances. There hasn't been a visit yet that hasn't produced anomalous observations within 8-10 hours. It is also interesting that we have seen phenomena that seem related to the site itself as far as 30miles east of the location and 25miles north of the site as well. I have seen them as high as 50degrees and several miles away so they don't really qualify as "ground" lights. > The self-luminous, metallic looking anomalies have appeared in two main forms that I have seen, spherical shapes five two eight feet across and rectangular shapes. The sphere did not seem luminous, it was reflective. The rectangle was actually a very bright bluish white line that was vibrating at a frequency to appear as a rectangular shape to unaided eyes and camcorders at regular speed. A dissection of the video demonstrates a vertically vibrating linear phenomenon, at 30frames per second. We observed this phenomenon as it approached the location and then disappeared over it. It was approximately 1-200 ft above ground level. > We have seen lights of yellow-amber, green, red, white and blue as well as unusual flashes. > Erling Strand and I were standing on a berm watching after dark when a yellow-green flash appeared out of the crapperal (chapperal) and passed between us. Less than a second duration. I thought it was an visual artifact until Erling asked me if I saw it. > The site itself seems to have a great deal of value to the local natives, and I estimate some of the native glyphs to be at least 5000yrs old. > I have been discussing this matter with Massimo Teodorani as my own team has a rather practical interest in these phenomena, however they arise. > I will say that when I am on-site, I try not to sleep. It seems like the location has, I don't know how to put this... I just try not to sleep and pay alot of attention to what is going on around me. > There is the matter of very high speed captures, 3-15 frames, of small red and green lights that seem to move into our immediate zone and withdraw. Strange stuff indeed. > Magical Nexus > > James Bunnell <jamesb50@...> wrote: > Dear Magical Nexus: > > Interesting. Activity at the site near Marfa, Texas is less frequent. The probability of seeing a mystery light on any given evening is approximately 15% or about one in seven. It is easy to spend countless nights without seeing anything but the phenomena is very real and definitely does manifest between sunset and sunrise. Appearances are almost always within 200 minutes of day/night boundaries with about 2/3 of the appearances occurring in the evening hours and the balance occurring in the morning hours. Never happens during daylight hours and very rarely between midnight and 4:00 am. Don't have data for Brown Mountain, NC or Min Min, Australia but have been given the impression that Brown Mountain appearances may be even more rare. > > There is a site in Texas that may occur every night but I suspect that this location is a different type of apparition as the source appears to be venting from the ground continuously. > > Have never seen anything that fits your characterization of "host of metallic looking self luminous forms." Would like to know more about your site and reported sightings. > > Jim > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Magical Nexus" <magicalnexus@...> > To: <mysterylights@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 10:02 PM > Subject: Re: [mysterylights] Earthlights > > > > Hi James, > > Your tally of sites where these phenomena manifest is close to our own estimates. > > The site I have been looking into is definately no urban legend. The social indicators are strong but more importantly the activity itself is quite pronounced. I met Erling Strand at this location in 2001 and it was his opinion that the location was far more active than Hessdalen. I have been to this location three times and we have documented activity on all three occasions and it is my opinion that it is constant with multiple daily manifestations. > > We are expecting Massimo Teodorani to release a paper shortly on this location and the activity recorded so far. Are you familiar with his work? If not, let me know and I will forward a doc.... > > I can't offer the location of the site itself because it is a pristine archeological site and protected by a court injunction. However, I anticipate return visits... > > One item of interest is the variety of phenomena that manifest at this site including orange orbs, blobs of orange plasma(?), a host of metallic looking self luminous forms with puzzling characteristics as well as both short duration (less than a second) and longer duration (minute plus) phenomenon. > > Looking forward to more dialog, > > Magical Nexus > > > > James Bunnell <jamesb50@...> wrote: > > Thanks for your inquiry. In my new book, Night Orbs, I name about 34 or 35 potential locations but a more complete list would be in excess of a hundred. I call these potential sites because many of them may be nothing more than urban/rural legends or else created by explainable sources. I discuss three sites that seem similar in nature and have a sufficient number of creditable reports to be considered definite locations of mystery lights. Those three locations are Mitchell Flat near Marfa, Texas, Brown Mountain, NC and Min Min, Australia. I am convinced that all three of these sites do, from time to time, display light phenomena. In the case of Marfa I know this for certain and include in my book ample photographic evidence that cannot be easily dismissed. > > > > Do all three of these sites have long histories that seem to begin with native inhabitants? Yes, that is definitely true. > > > > You do not mention the location that you are referring to. Where is it? > > > > If you have an interest in this phenomena you will find additional information and insight in Night Orbs. Initial copies of the book were distributed in West Texas just before Christmas but national distribution will take a while longer. Look for it in your local book store within a couple of months or you may request a copy directly from me. > > > > Jim > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Magical Nexus" <magicalnexus@...> > > To: <mysterylights@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 12:32 AM > > Subject: [mysterylights] Earthlights > > > > > > > Greetings, > > > I am quite interested in the Earthlights phenomena and have been studying a location where they occur off and on for the past couple of years > > > This sight in particular is isolated and seems to have had the interest of Native Americans over the centuries.... this seems to be a commonalty with these sites. They took on meaning to the humans who lived in the vacinity. 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