Mysterylights Group Message 0238

Subject: Re: (unknown)
From: "M. Adams" <electroquake@...>
Date: 29 Nov 2002 21:07

Hi Ted, 
You have made some excellent observations, however
there is a mundane explanation for many of them.  It
appears you are describing the Chinati mountains 26
miles from the Marfa Lights Viewing area.  There is a
very twisty road that descends from the summit of this
mountain near Shurly Ranch.  There are many cuts and
dips along this road.  The net effect is that randomly
spaced lights (cars) appear to descend slowly from
left to right flashing, disappearing and reappearing
as the car headlight angle changes and is blocked by
the freqent dips and road cuts.  The white lights are
car headlights descending towards the MLVA, the red
lights are tail lights climbing the mountain road.  

I too was very puzzled when I first videotaped this
phenomenon.  I drove the road and timed it.  If you
reveiw your tapes you will see the  light motion to
the right, descending, matches the timing of cars
moving about 55-60 mph. The  car headlights even
appear to stack vertically near the top section of the
road as it descends and turns. 

The observation of more frequent lights near sunset
and sunrise could be commute traffic. 

This critique does not imply that the Marfa Lights are
not real.  It does mean that the Marfa observations
are a mix of "real" and human activity.  One has to be
very careful in interpreting which are which if the
phenomenon is ever to be understood.  From your
description it appears you may have also seen some
"real" ones.  Best to focus on those! Good luck!

M. Adams

--- Robertson Harpsichords
<tsrobert@...> wrote:
> Hi,
>  I was fortunate to see and film the Marfa lights
> about a week ago.
>   Does anyone know where I can find a documentary on
> this subject for sale?
> I noticed that there seemed to be a general pattern
> to the movement and
> color of these lights. There were some exceptions. 
> And I only saw them over
> one night so perhaps the next day the pattern might
> be different.
> What I noticed through binoculars and recorded on
> videotape  was:
> 1) the white lights were always either stationary or
> moved to the right.
> 2) the dimmer red lights always moved to the left if
> they moved at all
> 3)A white light would originate near the left top of
> the mountain range and
> move on a gentle, straight downward sloping line to
> another location near
> the lower right. Then this light would disappear
> along the way on and off.
> when it reached the end of the line it would
> disappear for good and then
> become a red light that continued to retrace the
> path of the white light up
> and back to where the white light had originated . 
> This cycle would take
> about 15 minutes approx. so the lights were moving
> slowly. The red lights
> appeared to travel approx. the same speed as a white
> light and the red
> would either momentarily merge with other white
> lights that were passing or
> pass through/ behind  them.
> 4) more than one light would originate at the
> "starting point"  in the upper
> left part of the line so that there would be
> differently spaced white lights
> travelling together at "random?" spacings between
> them.
> 5) sometimes the white lights would suddenly for
> clusters of other lights
> around them.
> 6) Sometimes other lights would just pop up in
> various locations and some
> would stay stationary for long durations of about an
> hour.
> 7) the highest number of lights were seen generally
> before sunset, about an
> hour after sunset, and right at dawn and after dawn.
> 8) When Driving to one side of the other on the
> highway, the mountains and
> houses and other physical objects would be passed by
> and out of view yet I
> could still see the lights appearing directly in my
> field of view. What I am
> trying to say is that they did not appear to be in
> the same location
> distance wise as the houses or mountains but rather
> farther away.  Since it
> takes more driving distance to put a far object out
> of view as opposed to a
> near object. Essentially what I saw is similar to
> what one sees as they
> drive along a highway and watch the moon ,  it looks
> as if the moon has the
> appearance of "following the car" since it is so
> distant compared to
> terrestrial objects.  The Marfa lights too seemed to
> "follow the car" as if
> they were very distant objects, yet I cannot
> understand how this could be
> accomplished since these lights were below the
> horizon and thus viewed
> always as if they were in front of the mountains.
> This does not make seem
> practical because how could the light from something
> so distant be seen to
> appear in from of a more near mountain range.  I
> could see how this could
> occur if the Marfa light were being bent as a
> distant projection. An
> unusually curved light path?
> It is as if the mystery  lights  emanate  from an
> unknown and very distant
> source behind the mountains.
> 9) when driving on the highway to the east there
> comes a point where the
> lights are no longer visible. Then after turning the
> car around and driving
> back in the other direction, they become visible
> again. -very curious . Also
> they disappear as one gets close to them or so I
> have heard so that if one
> flies up to these lights in a helicopter there is a
> point reached where the
> lights disappear.  Further making their study
> difficult.  And suggesting
> that they are not physical objects. floating in the
> air.
> If anyone has experience with these lights and would
> like to collaborate
> observations, etc. I'm all ears..
> Sincerely,
>  Ted

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