Mysterylights Group Message 0167

Subject: Re: Hard Science at Marfa
From: "josee chelkoff" <josee.chelkoff@...>
Date: 28 Mar 2002 09:06

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From: vamphincest <panhead@...>
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Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 2:04 AM
Subject: [mysterylights] Hard Science at Marfa

> I know I am flooding this poor list, but this:
> is the only bit of hard science I have been able to find about Marfa
> on the Web after a months of scrounging. It turned up today.
> When I first visited Marfa a local quietly told me that the real Marfa
> lights were to the Southeast of the veiwing area. This occurred while
> a gaggle of tourists gazed to the Southwest at car lights progressing
> through the Chinati Mountians and were quite pleased to have
> experienced the "Lights." Having spent my formative years in the same
> desert I found THOSE lights to be somewhat odd, but definitely not the
> stuff of legend. The above link may very well explain THAT
> "phenomenon," but does NOT cover the real Marfa Lights.
> Occam's Razor is a scientific rule of thumb first stated in the Middle
> Ages (I think) that basically says that the simplest explanation is
> the best one. For there to be two phenomena at Marfa is a clear
> cut violation of this. However a close reading of Min Min accounts
> from the Australian desert suggests as much--electromagnetic phenomena
> combined with visual ones in close proximity to each other.
> On my way here to the tropics I saw a light at the Marfa viewing area
> to the Southeast in the early morning hours. I beleive it was the REAL
> Marfa Lights, but cannot exclude the possibility of a camper armed
> with a flashlight answering nature's call. There were people camping
> beyond the wire the first time I went to Marfa. Nevertheless it sure
> didn't look like that.
> The one thing I have apprehended from my plunge into this general area
> over the last half decade is that mainstream science will grasp at the
> first plausible straw, no matter how patently bogus, when confronted
> with the anything anomalous that contradicts the prevailing paradigm.
> However this does not mean I am about to throw out the baby with the
> bathwater and embrace everything that is heretical. You can keep your
> aliens. Why would such fantasies choose to visit this planet of the
> apes and abduct us idiots?
>                                             Maybe it's just because all of
them (aliens or what ever they are) are so bright and so intelligent
that their main purpose is to find out what idiots are made of  !!!

                                                But "why" is not a not a
good question if you require an answer fully satifactory for YOUR
                                                 Haven't you met people who
used to do what you'd consider as being foolish things  ?
                                        And would you deny their being real
just because they sound foolish ?

                                                                   "Fair is
fool and fool is fair"
                                            Shakespeare's witches certainly
used to dwell in places where strange lights can be seen...

At "Col de Vence" besides its strange lights, in a particular place there is
an odd noise (occuring at night) that nothing can explain :
No clouds, no wind, no houses nobody but a few of us  - and this strange
noise comes along  above your heads, remains there a while and then goes
away before vanishing in the distance. I didn't beleive what I was told
about that poise before hearing it myself and since I've heard it I had to
change all my conceptions about what's real or not.
So long

> Michael Grace
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