From ozestrange@... Thu Apr 14 00:41:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: ozestrange@... X-Apparently-To: mysterylights@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 4362 invoked from network); 14 Apr 2005 07:41:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m23.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Apr 2005 07:41:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n2a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.36) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Apr 2005 07:41:12 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: Received: from [66.218.69.2] by n2.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Apr 2005 07:38:48 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.91] by mailer2.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Apr 2005 07:38:46 -0000 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 07:38:44 -0000 To: mysterylights@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1142 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.36 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 202.52.42.155 From: "Mike Williams" Subject: exactly what can and cannot an earthlight do X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=61845547 X-Yahoo-Profile: ozestrange Hi Two quick points. I have the excellent book by Andrew collins. The only problem I see with meditation/photo results is the following. I used to capture the exact same black balls as Collins did when I used to repeat Constable/Bocconnes ired experiments. I would get the "results" whilst eating chocolate/reading/talking about nothing etc. Now if I had meditated and achieved the same "results" could I have claimed that the black things in the air were due to my thougth patterns. The main problem with eartlights is this. Whats the difference between an "earthlight" and just a straight out anomalous light that is often classified as a ufo. If an "earthlight" can have a structure/shape/pulsating lights/and project light beams/react to the thoughts+movements of the observers etc it then its seems to me that by using the monicker "eartlight" it removes the stigma associated with normal unusual aerial phenomena. What does the "earthlight" have to do or display to separate itself from being just a ufo. Because at the moment it sems an "earthlight" can do/be anything the researcher wants it to be. Mike