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X-Apparently-To: mysterylights@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 94860 invoked from network); 22 May 2004 10:33:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 May 2004 10:33:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtpout.ev1.net) (207.44.129.133) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 May 2004 10:33:01 -0000 Received: from i5t6f7 [207.218.217.154] by smtpout.ev1.net (SMTPD32-6.06) id AC2332640070; Sat, 22 May 2004 05:32:03 -0500 Message-ID: <002601c43fe8$072f00e0$aeb6fea9@i5t6f7> To: References: <20040521183344.89714.qmail@...> Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 05:32:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 207.44.129.133 From: "wayne parnell" Reply-To: "wayne parnell" Subject: Re: [mysterylights] Spook Lights in Alabama X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=141315574 Gentlemen, There is a rational and scientific answer for these lights. The scientific community has spent very little time in the analytical pursuit of this phenomena. Most people who deal with it are observers who are not actively in scientific looking for an answer. A lot of information has been gathered by a few dedicated groups, but even though a lot of important data has been collected no definitive answer has been found. This is not black magic but a very real scientific occurrence capable of being understood, in time, and even reproduced in a laboratory environment.This may fall into the realm of quantum physics, making the rational solution a little more difficult. Little is understood about gravity but we certainly deal with it's effect in all areas of our lives. Perhaps the person who discovers anti gravity will make the first flying saucer. The lights are equally as elusive but rest assured an answer will be found , and who knows a new and better form of lighting could be the result. The simple things are often present the most daunting of challenges. Wayne Parnell Wayne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Cox" To: Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [mysterylights] Spook Lights in Alabama > Response: > > thanks for the info > > I checked out the Hassdalen project website. Those > lights are very similar to what can be seen in the > area of northern Alabama I mentioned. There are many > similarities (size, shape, color, etc.). Some move at > very low altitude (I know of two reports where the 6-8 > orbs were about 2-3 feet from the ground. A fiend and > I saw one at about 20-25 feet from the ground - it was > directly above the engine of a train -the locomotive > was moving at normal speed and the light suddenly > appeard and followed the train until it was out of > sight. > > I hope to conduct some field research soon. > > thanks > > wyatt > > --- Magical Nexus wrote: > > Hi Aaron, > > > > I have seen similar displays in AZ and in So.Cal. > > Same basic description, a rust orange sphere 3-4 ft > > in diameter. > > > > Interestingly enough, similar descriptions can be > > found describing these phenomena that are not so > > location specific. Orange spheres have been reported > > by airline crews at altitude, ground observers > > describe them transiting over cities - Casa Grande > > area South of Phoenix is one such place as I recall. > > > > With respect to protocols I would suggest that you > > examine the work of Erling Strand > > www.hessdalenproject.org and especially the work of > > Massimo Teodorani and the EMBLA team www.itacomm.net > > > > Preparing relevent photographs involves using a > > camera as a spectroscope to acquire optical spectra > > that can be examined to identify constituent > > components of the lights. You need a high resolution > > digital camera - 5mpixels or stronger or a 35mmSLR > > with a 210mm lens, daylight settings, no flash, > > manual shutter if possible. Acquire a piece of > > holographic diffraction grating (Edmund Scientific > > sells sheets of it for 8 bucks a pop), cut it to fit > > the outer lens of your camera. > > > > When shooting, always test your film against a known > > light source so that its responsiveness can be > > tested - same basic concept for ccd in digital. > > > > Once you have a capture on film, get it developed. > > Note all technical details and provide it and the > > test shot to either an expert in, say, mass > > spectrometer work, a chemist or even myself, and > > some determination might be made about the > > constituents of the lights. > > > > Ideally one would have several of these cameras and > > several observers (triangulation) - the drawback is > > that this is primarily a night time technique. I > > have heard that these orange lights occur in > > daylight as well. > > > > In the location I have been watching there are > > several kinds of lights and anomalous occurances. > > They range from yellow-white, to green, red, and > > blue. There are also highly reflective presences and > > even once a very unusual display that seemed alot > > like lightning but was quite pronounced in its shape > > and behavior (very unlightning-like). > > > > There is alot of work that can be done in this area > > and the prime requisite is a combination of critical > > thinking and active data collection. I am certain > > that we are documenting phenomena that are very > > poorly understood though they have been around > > forever. > > > > I am aware of one site that is covered in rock art, > > some of it quite old (5K years) and seeming to > > represent the phenomena. The native interest in this > > particular site is quite interesting.... > > > > Anyway, hope this helps... > > > > Magical Nexus > > > > Aaron Cox wrote: > > thanks for the quick reply > > > > > > There is an area in north western Alabama where I > > and > > two friends have viewed these Spook Lights on > > different occassions. The first time was in 1977. > > The last time was last year. > > > > Because I no longer live nearby, I have less > > opportunity to observe them. They have been seen in > > this area for more than three decades. > > > > I have also interviewed witnesses who have seen them > > up close - a few hundred feet away. They are > > typically a fairly bright orange globe that are > > about > > 6-8 feet in diameter. Each sighting varies, but it > > is common for the object to be in sight for about > > 2-3 > > minutes. > > > > Anyway, I am trying to gather information about > > other > > Spook Lights which are similar to this one. > > > > I would be interested in knowing what the > > investigative protocols are. > > > > Thanks > > > > Wyatt > > --- Magical Nexus wrote: > > > I am not certain what you are asking for..... > > sounds > > > like you know of a location already. I am aware of > > > over 70 locations around the globe where folks > > claim > > > anomalous light phenomena occur. I just got back > > > from a week on a site documenting unusual lights. > > > > > > I will say that there are a band of locations > > across > > > the Southern US and Northern Mexico extending from > > > So. Cal all the way to Florida where unusual light > > > phenomena have been documented, so I wouldn't be > > > surprized if they occured in Alabama also. > > > > > > The trick is to do something more than photograph > > > them.... film and pics are nice but nobody really > > > considers them of any use as scientific validation > > > if offered alone as "proof". If you were to follow > > > strict protocols and use a variety of sensing > > > devices as well as take pictures that have > > > scientific value, you might be contributing to the > > > sum total of knowledge about so-called > > Earthlights. > > > > > > Magical Nexus > > > > > > wyattknows wrote: > > > Conducting research about Spook Lights in Alabama. > > > > > Any info would > > > be appreciated. There is one place in Lauderdale > > > County where large > > > Spook Lights are sometimes seen. > > > > > > I and some friends have seen them on different > > > occassions. > > > > > > wyatt > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! 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