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X-Apparently-To: mysterylights@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 87263 invoked from network); 17 Oct 2003 09:26:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Oct 2003 09:26:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtpzilla1.xs4all.nl) (194.109.127.137) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Oct 2003 09:26:43 -0000 Received: from tm616316 (213-84-215-93.adsl.xs4all.nl [213.84.215.93]) by smtpzilla1.xs4all.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9H9QdkD061992; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 11:26:40 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 03:48:03 -0400 To: - UFO UpDates List - 001 -:; Subject: Fwd = UFO UpDate: Ball Lightning Forum - No. 4 Received: from ufo-updates-i.sympatico.ca ([64.231.77.33]) by tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031017074952.PNFC23093.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@...>; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 03:49:52 -0400 Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20031017034802.00b97720@...> Precedence: bulk X-Sender: b1ftpv35@... X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Oct 2003 07:49:55.0296 (UTC) FILETIME=[4141BE00:01C39483] Resent-To: UFOnet@yahoogroups.com Resent-From: Frits Westra Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 11:26:26 +0200 Resent-Message-ID: X-eGroups-From: UFO UpDates - Toronto (by way of UFO UpDates - Toronto ) From: UFO UpDates - Toronto (by way of UFO UpDates - Toronto ) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=162873989 X-Yahoo-Profile: parodynl From: Terry W. Colvin To: UFO UpDates - Toronto Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:55:44 -0700 Subject: Ball Lightning Forum - No. 4 Another not well understood natural phenomenon that contributes to the chaos and confusion of reported UFOs. ---------------- After rummaging through books, magazines, clippings, etc. I've found a few more ball lightning references. These vary from the academic to the anecdotal. [1] *Space-Time Transients and Unusual Events*, 1977, by Michael A. Persinger and Gyslaine F. Lafrenie(`)re. Nelson-Hall Inc., 325 West Jackson Blvd., Chicago, Illinois 60606. ISBN 0-88229- 334-6 (hardback), ISBN 0-88229-462-8 (paperback). A general phenomena book using statistical analysis; only Chapters 6 and 8, Unusual and Infrequent Astronomical Events, and Unusual and Infrequent Meteorological Events, resp., have a bearing on BL. [2] *The Nature of Light & Colour in the Open Air*, 1954, by M. Minnaert. Dover Publications Inc., 180 Varick Street, New York, NY 10014. A review and explanation of atmospheric phenomena, "mirages, haloes, shadows, double rainbows... hundreds of other phenomena visible with the naked eye... explained by a famous physicist" as written on the jacket blurb. [3] *Final Report of the Scientific Study of Unidentified Flying Objects* conducted by the University of Colorado under contract to the United States Air Force, Dr. Edward U. Condon, Scientific Director. Research supported by the Air Force Office of Scientific Research, Office of Aerospace Research, USAF, under contract F44620-67-C-0035. Daniel S. Gillmor, Editor, 1968, with an introduction by Walter Sullivan of *The New York Times*. My paperback edition is 965 closely printed pages. Discussion of ball lightning and related phenomena occurs on pages 681-682, 723, 729, 732-733, and 735-750. References and Notes Section 7: Surveys of ball lightning are: 1. Preliminary Report on Ball Lightning, J. Rand McNally, Jr.; Second Annual Meeting, Div. of Plasma Phys., Amer. Phys. Soc., Gatlinburg, Tenn. Nov 2-5,1960. 2. Ball Lightning Characteristics, Warren D. Rayle: NASA TN D- 3188, January,1966. 3. Ball Lightning, James Dale Barry: Master's Thesis, California State College, 1966. 4. Ball Lightning, J. Dale Barry: Journal of Atmospheric and Terrestrial Physics, vol. 29, p. 1095, 1967. Bibliographies of earlier ball lightning work: 5. Ball Lightning Bibliography 1950-1960: Science and Technology Division, Library of Congress, 1961. 6. Ball Lightning (A Collection of Soviet Research in English Translation), Donald J. Ritchie (editor): Consultants Bureau, New York, 1961. A theory based on standing microwave patterns is given in: 7. The Nature of Ball Lightning, P. L. Kapitsa: in Ball Lightning, Consultants Bureau, N.Y., 1961 (Doklady Akademii Nauk SSSR, vol. 101, p. 245, 1955). 8. Ball Lightning, David Finkelstein and Julio Rubinstein: Physical Review, vol. 135, p. A390, 1964. 9. A Theory of Ball Lightning, Martin A. Uman and Carl W. Helstrom: Journal of Geophysical Research, vol. 71, p. 1975, 1966. Theories based on magnetic containment are given by: 10. Ball Lightning and Self-Containing Electromagnetic Fields, Philip O. Johnson: American Journal of Physics, vol. 33, p. 119, 1965. 11. Ball Lightning, E. R. Wooding: Nature, vol. 199, p. 272, 1963. 12. On Magnetohydrodynamical Equilibrium Configurations, V. D. Shafranov: in Ball Lightning, Consultants Bureau, N.Y., 1961 (Zhurnal Eksperimentalnoi i Teoreticheskoi Fiziki, vol. 37, p. 224, 1959. 13. Magneto-Vortex Rings, Yu. P. Ladikov: in Ball Lightning, Consultants Bureau, N.Y., 1961 (Izvestiya Akademii Nauk SSSR, Mekhanika i Mashinostroyenie, No. 4, p. 7, July-Aug., 1960). A theory of ball lightning as a miniature thundercloud is given in: 14. Ball Lightning as a Physical Phenomenon, E. L. Hill: Journal of Geophysical Research, vol. 65, p. 1947, 1960. The creation of ball lightning by man-made devices is discussed in: 15. Ball Lightning and Plasmoids, Paul A. Silberg: Journal of Geophysical Research, vol. 67, p. 4941, 1962. Ball lightning as burning hydrocarbon is discussed in: 16. Laboratory Ball Lightning, J. Dale Barry, Journal of Terrestrial Physics, vol. 30, p. 313. 1968. A skeptical view of ball lightning theories is given in: 17. Attempted Explanations of Ball Lightning, Edmond M. Dewan: Physical Sciences Research Paper #67, AFCRL-64-927, November, 1964. An elementary review of ball lightning is: 18. Ball Lightning, H. W. Lewis: Scientific American, March, 1963. The first eyewitness account presented in this review is found in: 19. The Nature of Ball Lightning, G. I. Kogan-Beletskii: in Ball Lightning, Consultants Bureau, N.Y., 1961 (Prioroda, No. 4, p. 71, 1957). Eyewitness accounts 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, and many others even more incredible are found in: 20. Eyewitness Accounts of Kugelblitz, Edmond M. Dewan: CRD-25, (Air Force Cambridge Research Laboratories) March, 1964. Account 4 concerns a photograph taken by Robert J. Childerhose of the RCAF. The description is found in the book by Klass, which is cited below. The strange case in St. Petersburg, Florida is discussed in: 21. Theory of the Lightning Balls and Its Application to the Atmospheric Phenomenon Called "Flying Saucers," Carl Benedicks: Arkiv for Geofysik (Sweden), vol. 2, p. 1, 1954. [4] *Book of the Damned*, 1919 and 1940, by Charles Hoy Fort. 1. pp. 273-274: In *Nature*, 37-187, and *L'Astronomie*, 1887- 76, we are told that an object, described as "a large ball of fire," was seen to rise from the sea, near Cape Race. We are told that it rose to a height of fifty feet, and then advanced close to the ship, then moving away, remaining visible about five minutes. The supposition in *Nature* is that it was "ball lightning," but Flammarion, *Thunder and Lightning*, p. 68, says that it was enormous. Details in the American *Meteorological Journal*, 6-443--Nov. 12, 1887--British steamer *Siberian*--that the object had moved "against the wind" before retreating--that Captain Moore said that at about the same place he had seen such appearances before. *Report of the British Association*, 1861- 30: That, upon June 18, 1845, according to the *Malta Times*, from the brig *Victoria*, about 900 miles east of Adalia, Asia Minor (36 degrees, 40 minutes, 56 seconds, N. Lat.: 13 degrees, 44 minutes, 36 seconds E. Long.), three luminous bodies were seen to issue from the sea, at about half a mile from the vessel. They were visible about ten minutes. 2. "As to what ball lightning is, we have not yet begun to make intelligent guesses." (*Monthly Weather Review*, 34-17.) In general, it seems to me that when we encounter the opposition [to] "ball lightning" we should pay little attention, but confine ourselves to guesses that are at least intelligent, that stand phantom-like in our way. We note here that in some of our acceptances upon intelligence we should more clearly have pointed out that they were upon the intelligent as opposed to the instinctive. In the *Monthly Weather Review*, 33-409, there is an account of "ball lightning" that struck a tree. It made a dent such as a falling object would make. Some other time I shall collect instances of "ball lightning," to express that they are instances of objects that have fallen from the sky, luminously, exploding terrifically. So bewildered is the old orthodoxy by these phenomena that many scientists have either denied "ball lightning" or have considered it very doubtful. I refer to Dr. Sestier's list of one hundred and fifty instances, which he considered authentic. [5] *Flying Saucer Review*, London, United Kingdom. 1. Vol. 10, No. 5, September-October 1964, pp. 14-15, "A Note on Fireballs." 2. Vol. 14, No. 4, July-August 1968, p. 35, "All Fireballs?". 3. Vol. 15, No. 1, January-February 1969, pp. 25-26, "UFOs And Ball Lightning." 4. Vol. 18, No. 3, May-June 1972, pp. 23-24, "Some Thoughts on 'Thinking Globes'". I quote from the introductory paragraph of item [5]1.: Readers of Dr. Menzel's latest book, *The World of Flying Saucers* will recall that the author attempted to explain one mystery (UFOs) in terms of another (fireballs). It would seem that the latter subject has attracted as little scientific attention as the former. Indeed, if one takes a close look at the history of fireballs one is almost persuaded that their behaviour resembles that of the Foo Fighters of the 1939-1945 war. Even Dr. Menzel had to admit that scientists knew very little about fireballs, though he was prepared to invoke them as conventionalisations for flying saucers. The saucer student could equally well reverse the process and claim that what was known as a fireball in the past was in fact the flying saucer of today. The 21 references in [3] above are the more academic while all else is anecdotal. While not exhaustive these references are some of the more unknown to most students of ball lightning. I'm sure other references exist in the specialty (a.k.a. fringe science) magazines; however, little to no indexing makes it difficult to find ball lightning "stuff" when mixed in with luminous, atmospheric, meteorological, and UFO phenomena. That will be the focus of my next search. Terry "No editor ever likes the way a story tastes unless he pees in it first." -Mark Twain -- "Only a zit on the wart on the heinie of progress." Copyright 1992, Frank Rice Terry W. Colvin, Sierra Vista, Arizona (USA) fortean1@...