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X-Apparently-To: mysterylights@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: unknown); 3 Mar 2002 01:17:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 11307 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2002 01:17:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m5.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Mar 2002 01:17:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ultratv.com) (62.248.100.253) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Mar 2002 01:17:05 -0000 Received: from erol [195.174.100.38] by ultratv.com (SMTPD32-6.06) id A94E4110146; Sun, 03 Mar 2002 03:15:58 +0200 Message-ID: <019c01c1c250$57d78980$0100a8c0@...> To: Cc: "Andrei Ol'khovatov" , "Edoardo Russo" , "European Journal of UFO and Abduction Studies" , , "Nick Balaskas" , "Paul Devereux" , "France St-Laurent" , "hafez keypour" , "John Derr" , "JOHN HAYES" , "Larry Hatch" , "Loy Lawhon" , , "Marcel Ouellet" , "Mitch Battros" , "MUFON-CES Newsmaster" , , "Orhan Golbasi" , "Orlando Pla" , , "The Electric Warrior" , "Teodorani Massimo" , , Subject: anomalous luminous phenomena Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 03:11:25 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for spam. From: "TUVPO1" Reply-To: "TUVPO1" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=10993291 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Updated version Definition (text only) Our ALP project had started in 1999 just before the Izmit earthquake. There were 2 main reasons to execute this project: 1- To prove that the lights seen before earthquakes are not UFOs. 2- To decrease the rate of deaths caused by earthquakes, by warning people beforehand. By the time, we got many newer knowledge and we need to change the older informations in our first web page with newer ones. Firstly our page had been composed for everyone to understand. Our pages are mostly visited by people interested in UFOs; so informing these people with correct data's are aimed. Due to this reason, we did not give detailed technical information in our pages. And the questions which are asked to us about the details will be answered and still being answered. The phenomena which is in the earthquake lights category had been the most scientifically descripted with TST theory by M. Persinger. The ALP term in our project is quoted form these paper. Our ALP definition is not the flames occurred during or just after the quake or discharge of static electric or the lights emerged from the gas which come from the crust. We have a few reasons for using the term "ALP". First is resulted from the fact that this phenomena could not been defined, and the other is that the earthquake lights emerge in various formations. In the other hand, ALPs vary in every different geographical regions. The lights that we are researching are seen just before the quake in the regions located on the active fault lines or in the regions which active plates forms stress. Such a phenomena is seen most recently during the Adiyaman observations. The Arabian Plate forms it's stress accumulation on the point on the city of Adiyaman, as seen in the illustration. Arabian Plate slides into Anatolian Plate every year about 2 centimetres. Due to that fact, UFO reports are mostly reported from the region around Adiyaman. However, these lights are ALPs and the release of the stress had occurred on a new and weak fault line on the Anatolian Plate, which Afyon is located on. There are not any research done for the subject of resembling light phenomenas which are not connected with quakes and seismic (like in the regions which has volcanoes nearby or located over similar mineral structures); but the techniques used by us to define the ALPs can be another research subject in terms of analysing these lights. Since our project had started, the preinformations below are obtained, although some new age groups which are concerned with UFOs insist on Aliens. As a summary, ALPs occur in the regions that seismic activities are happening, and emerge from the crystal structures which are mashed by the stress. They become visible with many other natural events. A laboratory model of such a mechanism is shown in the diagram below. So the movement of the plates creates the stress and causes the lights seen before the quakes. The difference between the date of observing lights and quakes occurring is related with the length of the fault line. The preinformations to support this thesis of us are reached as a result of analysing the datas obtained since 1999, nevertheless it cannot be formulated due to the deficiency of the similar events. These datas should be evaluated under the detailed informations such as the ALP's; duration of observation, height, spectral behaviour, the piezoelectric charges observed in the region and various gas (which are thought causing the planes to crash into ground) spread into air from the fault lines. It is certain that a result will be obtained with the information which I have sum up above and with the studies of other scientists. We hear various thesis about ALPs from scientists. The most interesting one is the Kiana theory of Hafes Keypour and his team. Shortly, the storage of nuclear churn is claimed as one of the reasons of quakes in this theory. There are thesis of other scientists too; however none of them is proved clearly. As a result, we claim that the topics mentioned here are expertise branches on their own. We also claim the datas are not satisfactory which obtained from researches which are not supported with other researches. We, TUVPO, can only study with a little part of the topic and we naturally let the other subjects to be studied by other scientists and groups. And also we are ready to provide documents , to join the other studies and similar subjects. Our studies are focused on the subjects below. 1- To find, analyse and describe video and photographic documentations about ALPs, 2- To determine and measure the piezoelectric sphere during the formation of ALPs and to find the connection between quakes. The datas taken from 8 different part of marmara region are being evaluated at the moment. 3- To formulate the connection of all datas with quakes 4- To forward the essays of project participants to other participants and to supply contact between them. 5- To classify the reports of other establishments and researchers about UFOs and forward to other researchers by means of the project The first datas of our ALP project Between 20 and 26.8.1999, Turkish TV stations mentioned UFOs in a sensational way. Lots of TV channels were mentioning as "Aliens had came / coming". So some Turkish UFO groups were talking about these lights and claiming they are UFOs. TUVPO firstly seized this subject in these days. The illustration below shows a TV channel making news about UFOs in these days. For a detailed information, you can check our website by clicking here. As a result, during the research of the first important ALP observation, Izmit quake had occurred and some other ALPs are observed and some similar quakes had occurred following. These were hard times for all of us. Approximately 25 000 people had died, while TVs and newspapers were publishing the news about the disaster, these images had affected our lives badly. People couldn't enter their homes and lots of negative events followed. We evaluated our datas in every chance we got and the datas obtained were indicating that some of the quakes can be noticed before and lots of people could be saved. So we started our ALP project. Firstly some high - resolution ALP photos were taken and published in our website. Since than lots of similar but in smaller categories seismic activities had occurred. (Turkey is entirely on a quake zone.) We found out that the duration of observing the lights are directly proportional to the distance of the area which quake will occur and to the length of the fault line. To provide and analyse photographic and video documentation and description: I have used my personal experiments in professional film branch. I studied on some profiles to obtain lots of measurement stability as personnel who had education on colour reproduction and separation in printing sector. These profiles or measurement scales are developed only for supporting the description of ALPs. These profiles shortly includes the studies as comparing and matching spectral values of light with piezolight values, determining the heat and Kelvin temperature, finding the approximately height etc. Advanced film and colour measurement and high quality reproduction equipments are used during analysis and measurements. We cannot claim that the descriptions are %100 reliable; however we did not encounter to a negative data which will lead as to a doubt (except some of them). The datas that we have difficulties to describe are resulted from the low - quality videos taken by 3. party people. We also have studies to make them better. I want to say that we are in average level in terms of developing this technic. I hope that we will clarify the usage and application techniques of such special profiles with more certain references. For the present we can say that we can determine whether the lights are ALPs or not. It is the work of an other team to define the places where ALPs are seen and having experiments on various soil samples collected from this area as the definition of lights. We want to make a warning in this subject; the lights contain high level energy, and can change sandlike formations into glasslike formations in the area which they occur, and very dangerous to human being. (Please check the rock samples shown in our reports, attached.) Determining and measuring the sphere of Piezoelectric during the occurrence of ALPs and connecting with quakes. Now, the datas taken from 10 different ground station in marmara region are being evaluated. These ground stations publish the low frequency components of electrical sphere affected by Piezoelectricity such as VAN method as linear measurements and as graphics, 24 hours in a day. These values are evaluated with ALP observations. It is rather early to make explainments with certain values although it is proven that there is a connection between ALPs and piezoelectric measurements and following seismic activities. To formulate the connections between all datas and the quakes. As we tried to explain above, to formulate such connections seems difficult now. One of it's most important reasons is that many various scientists cannot research such a phenomena together, and the regions which such phenomenas are observed are spread in various parts of earth. We, TUVPO, will continue studying as possible as we could. We aim to have important documentations in some day. But we can certainly say that seismic activities absolutely occur after ALP definitions. Other subjects: We announced people relevant to UFOs, when we start our project and wanted them to send similar reports to us legally. Our goal was having a larger documentation. At first, many people and foundations supported us, they published our banners but we did not got any documentation. Although thousands of UFO reports were published and some of them were in ALP characteristic, none of UFO related foundations and people did not want to have a disciplined study or they couldn't do. TUVPO evaluated the only documentations and reports obtained from Turkey since than. The certain obtained fact is that these lights have no connection with aliens. Quakes can be noticed before with accurate studies. It is certain that these studies will be developed while seismic activities increase but our wish is that no one will be harmed. Our project is still going on. We are ready to share our experiences as we accept new members. Erol Erkmen tuvpo.com project ALP, Updated version with full documentation here: http://www.tuvpo.com/alp/deprem2e.html [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]