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X-Apparently-To: mysterylights@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 30 Jan 2002 18:10:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 21390 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2002 18:10:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m6.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Jan 2002 18:10:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mint.nl.gxn.net) (62.100.30.37) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Jan 2002 18:10:54 -0000 Received: from hmm-dca-ap01-d05-035.dial.freesurf.nl (hmm-dca-ap01-d05-035.dial.freesurf.nl [62.100.38.35]) by mint.nl.gxn.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 7DED33BD66 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 19:10:33 +0100 (MET) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 19:11:29 +0100 X-Mailer: Net-Tamer 1.12.0 Subject: Fwd = Albert Budden's response to Mike Williams (1/2) X-Mailreader: NTReader v0.36w(P)/Beta (Registered) Message-Id: <20020130181033.7DED33BD66@...> From: Frits Westra X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=196822 X-Yahoo-Profile: parodynl Hello Mike and all, Some time ago Mike Williams and I had a discussion about Albert Budden's theories. Mike's crititism of Budden's theories boiled down to six points, which I've put to Albert Budden himself. Below is the full text of Part 1 of Budden's extensive response, which I received by snail-mail. Part 2 is posted separately. Both parts will be cross-posted to other mailing lists. Cheers, Frits Forwarded by: fwestra@... (Frits Westra) Posted on behalf of: Albert Budden, Middlesex, UK Original Date: January 2002 ========================== Forwarded message begins ====================== Replies to Mike Williams' comments and questions from Albert Budden. January 2002. Part 1/2 1) Mr Williams, refers to the TriField meter as "a toy". This is a very curious conclusion to come to, especially as I see from his other comments that he owns one. If this is the case, surely he would have read the three A4 pages full of technical specifications which come with each meter. (if not I can send him a copy of these technical specifications) Also the meter is designed and manufactured by a reputable electronics company in Salt Lake City, Utah, USA, called AlphaLabs Inc. The technical specifications are very detailed and clearly show that the TriField meter is of conventional design for this type of EM field detection instrumentation, (no dowsing rods or pendulum references) and is an effectively constructed piece of scientific apparatus used to detect and measure magnetic, electric and radio-frequency fields, including microwaves. Actually, considering Williams' sweeping statement, it is this sort of comment I get from people who have very little scientific knowledge, as they cannot really appreciate the essence and performance of the TriField, which, compared with other meters on the market, is very good for its cost, (a meter which detects microwaves only is on sale in the UK for over GBP 600!) and such people with limited scientific knowledge just rely on the impression they get when they first see it as a small plain black box with a knob and dial on the front, which is what the TriField looks like. However, I am sure that Williams would have been much happier if the TriField had looked more complicated and had a large expansive antennae protruding from the top with multiple branches, mounted on a computer console with a revolving dish that bleeped as lines flickered across an oscilloscope, as electrical arcing sparking up a transparent tube, as this conforms much more to what sci-fi films portray as the labs of "real" scientists, which certainly seems to be the only source of Williams' information on scientific apparatus. I have used the TriField many times to check if microwave ovens leak or not, and have scanned many places of work alleviating "sick building syndrome" through detecting areas of high field density, then followed by the rearrangement of computer banks etc. I have also enabled people previously suffering from a range of characteristic health related effects to be free of symptoms, such as the many people who have found it almost impossible to sleep due to being irradiated by high magnetic field densities from their bedside clock radio, which they then moved to the other side of the room. I have also shown through the use of the meter, that "abductees" currently going through an active period of "visitations", or those who report "haunting" phenomena, are living in an electromagnetic hot spot. Therefore, the TriField meter should certainly not be thought of as "a toy" in any sense of the word. If a full dosimetric survey of a location is required, this meter will effectively indicate the presence of EM fields significantly above background levels,(which is how The World Health Organisation defines an EM hot spot.) and would be a good starter for a full dosimetric survey, which as I will explain would then require a spectrum analyser. Also it should of course be noted that it is time-varying energies that are being detected and measured. I wonder if Mr Williams knows what this means or even the difference between ionising and non-ionising radiation. A little induction training into the correct use of the meter may be required for those with no scientific background. I also use many other meters from time to time, as well as (rarely) a spectrum-analyser - all borrowed (and returned) from the technical department of a certain university in the UK which shall remain nameless. However, there are actually some field meters that ARE actually designed to appear toy-like, with pretty flashing lights and brightly coloured bands with 'high', 'medium' and 'low' on their scale, so as to be user-friendly to those who wish to check their house, but have no scientific/technical knowledge and would just find the look of the TriField too daunting for them. To fully realise and appreciate what the investigator gets for the money (around GBP 120.00) when a TriField is bought, (which Williams obviously does not) he should try shopping around other companies (like Scientific Perspectives, 100, Baker Street, London.) to try to find a reasonably priced meter that detects all three field-types, one with dual sensitivities. They stock both the toy-like variety and the ultra-expensive microwave detector. 2) Mr Williams states: "No one else has ever found the consistent readings he seems to find everywhere. If there exists someone please tell me." Mr Williams seems slightly confused by stating that I find consistent readings "everywhere". (sic) I do not actually find consistent readings everywhere at all. I can only assume that what he really means, is that he thinks that nobody else has detected "haunted" locations as EM hot spots and high field levels at those homes where someone is currently undergoing inexplicable or "paranormal" experiences, including alien visitations and/or abductions. Again, it should be remembered that we are dealing with time-varying EM fields that are not constant and may not be there at the time Mr Williams checks, but are in the early hours of the morning, for example. There is a video of a TV documentary actually showing veteran American psychical investigator William Roll walking through the rooms of a "haunted" hotel with a field meter, and finding abnormally high magnetic field levels. So as Mr Williams asks "If there exists someone please tell me", as if for some reason this would be an impossibility, I can, with a certain pleasure and satisfaction of vindication, send him a copy of the video, or he could contact the investigators and/or experiencers in the list I have provided who have also found that the locations where "hauntings" or alien visitation or abduction experiences take place, are EM hot spots. Also, Mr Williams appears to think that I am quite alone regarding support and/or acceptance of the EM Pollution Approach, and that there is nobody else who agrees with me or recognises any value in the approach I have developed, and that it has made no impression on anyone of any significance. _He_could_not_be_more_wrong._ As far as locating other people who have also found the consistent incidence of EM hot spots at the homes of experiencers, or actively support and recognise the breakthrough that the EM Pollution Approach represents, I advise him to either contact or read letters (copies of which I could provide for him) from the following list of people who are either investigators, academics or scientific researchers working in universities or experiencers/ "abductees" or are "psychics" with self-reported ESP abilities, all of whom accept and welcome the EM pollution approach I have developed to understand phenomena and symptoms. Allow me to comment on each of these supportive groups: INVESTIGATORS. Regarding those who are investigators who either have TriFields or comparable instrumentation; it is these people who will tell you how they have also found the same conditions as I have predicted in my books, especially "Electric UFOs", (e.g. Albert Jan Sanders and Frits Westra in Holland, or Brian Allan in Scotland or Bill Harding in Kew, Surrey, UK.) So here are the names and some details of those categories described above that I can arrange for Mr Williams to communicate with on the topic of my approach. Some of the names are famous and will be known to him:- 1) Dr Jacques Vallee. USA. involvement: Well-known investigator and author of UFO-related topics. Wrote to me saying how stunned he was at the elegance of my approach after reading "Allergies and Aliens", and how he wished he had thought of it first himself! Letter copy is available with USA address and phone number if verification is needed. 2) Professor Kenneth Ring. USA. Professor of Psychology, Connecticut University. Involvement: Specialised in-depth investigator of "abductees" and those having near-death experiences. Published his findings in the epic book "The Omega Project". Discovered the incidence of electrical hypersensitivity in his study population of "abductees" in 1987. (Many years before I independently discovered the same parameter in my population of "abductees" in the UK) Endorses and supports my approach. Copies of his letters (with address) to this effect available. 3) Professor Michael Persinger. Head of Neuroscience Department at Laurentian University, Sudbury, Canada. Involvement: Leading researcher in the field having published scientific papers on the effects of magnetic fields on the temporal lobes of the brain. Wrote to me to congratulate me on the development of the EM Pollution Approach as it extended his own research findings. Subscribed to my newsletter "The Steady Signal". 4) Donna Hoggart. UK. Involvement: Long-term experiencer. Wrote to me after reading my book "Allergies and Aliens", telling me how it had totally changed her life for the better, finally finding the truth regarding the causes of her many strange experiences. 5) Brian Allan. Scotland, UK. Involvement: Active investigator. Found the same aspects in his cases as described in my books. Has appeared in TV documentaries on local "hauntings" using his TriField meter. 6) Albert Jan Sanders and Frits Westra. Holland. Involvement: Active and experienced investigators for the Netherlands UFO Working Group. Wrote to me in the UK as they had been impressed by "Electric UFOs" as a long-term case they had been studying for years, conformed so closely to the parameters predicted in my book. invited me to Holland to lecture and record interview for their website: http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=ufonet 7) Dr. Eddie Bullard. USA. Specialist in Folklore studies. Involvement: Compiled a three-volume epic study of the alien abduction experience funded by the very ETH-biased Fund for UFO Research. Is now of the opinion that the Electromagnetic Pollution Approach represents the most formidable challenge to the ETH. Contributed his opinion dismissing "alien abductions" as types of urban myth to "Electric UFOs". 8) James Basil. Involvement: Long-term "Abductee"/Experiencer. Became convinced of the correctness of my approach after reading "Electric UFOs" and founded an organisation called FRETSA - Foundation for the Research of Encounter Trauma and Support for Abductees, which has acted as a clearing house for "abductees" and other experiencers to make contact with each other. Also FRETSA came about because Basil "was disgusted" with the appalling way that he was treated by medical and psychiatric professionals, who had no idea what was really happening to him. 9) Mrs. McCormack. Scotland, UK. Involvement: Long-term experiencer. Contacted me after reading one of my books, having realised that electrical hypersensitivity (EH) was the cause of her weird experiences. Her long descriptive letters of her very strange perceptions later changed as she began to report a new period of "normalisation" after she had moved house, which was clearly an EM hot spot. 10) Danny Sullivan. UK. Involvement: Investigator and now editor of "The Ley Hunter". Accepts the veracity of my approach and has published articles I have written. 11) Dr. Peter McCue. Scotland, UK. Psychiatrist. Leading member of the Scottish Society of Psychical Research. Investigator. Obtained TriField meter. Supports the approach I have developed and has invited me to lecture for the SSPR. 12) Poppy Palin. UK art teacher in state schools. Involvement: Experiencer of many strange and vivid anomalies over many years. Accepts the EM Pollution Approach completely, especially as she recognises herself in the parameters predicted in my books. Actually difficult to contact as she moves home very frequently, but I have a mobile phone number for her. 13) Craig Roberts. Involvement: Science graduate and investigator. Also editor of a scientifically-orientated periodical called "European Journal of UFO and Abduction Studies". Strongly supports my approach and findings. 14) Anne Silk. UK. Occupation: Specialist Optician. Now retired. Involvement: Active investigator of "hauntings" and general anomalies. Co-authored (with an 'earth-mysteries' specialist) the hardback book "Ancient Energies of the Earth" showing how natural geophysical electromagnetic fields had induced many of the phenomena accelerated by artificial EM fields in modem times. Anne Arnold-Silk is the elected President for the professional association for opticians in the UK. She has presented numerous lectures to many medical organisations and universities in the UK (including Oxford and Cambridge) on the health and perception effects of EM fields on the human system. 15) Elizabeth Gold. Wales, UK. Involvement: Long-term experiencer. Recognised herself in the list of characteristics predicted in my books and is described in "Electric UFOs" as "Morgan of Swansea". Greatly relieved to learn the true cause of her terrifying and tormenting experiences, which had become her mission in life. Now angry towards "those idiots" (her words) who had in the past encouraged her to believe that she was under "psychic attack", or was possessed by a 13th century monk or was being covertly surgically operated on by aliens while she slept! Now much better after moving into an EM cold spot, although her vivid "haunting" sensations can still be induced by laying down and placing a novelty fridge-magnet on her forehead for about 15 minutes. 16) Dr Dean Radin. USA. Involvement: Carries out officially-funded scientific research in the Parapsychology Department of an American University. Author of "The Conscious Universe". Appeared in a TV documentary in the UK describing how conditions in the environment, including electromagnetic ones, were responsible for phenomena and effects traditionally thought to be "paranormal" or "hauntings". Video of the documentary available. (UK format) 17) Dr William Roll. USA. Long-term veteran psychical investigator co-authored a scientific monograph with Dean Radin which showed how the presence of magnetic fields within a building induced "haunting" phenomena. Used a field meter in his investigations and appeared in the same TV documentary as Dean Radin, expressing the same views. Video available also.(UK format) 18) Robert Harris. UK. Involvement: Course Administrator at a Richmond College, Surrey, UK. He came with me on a first visit to the home of an "abductee" - a 25-year old man. He wanted to see if my prediction that "abductees" lived in EM hot spots was true or not; a real test. Neither of us had been to this particular experiencer's north London home before, but when we arrived we immediately saw an electric train track below power lines just 100 metres from his front door. Later, investigation revealed a huge radio-mast standing on the back garden lawn of his long-term radio-ham neighbour. This powerful RF transmitter had been there for 15 years, during the formative years of this "abductee". 19) "June" of Coventry. Involvement: Long-term experiencer. Excited and relieved to read of my findings and has appeared in several TV documentaries on alien abduction experiences, stating how my approach showed her what her experiences were really about. Video copies of the programme available. I could continue with this list of investigators who have found the same aspects that I have in cases, or experiencers who have recognised themselves in the predicted parameters in my books, or academic researchers/authors who have recognised the breakthrough that my developed approach represents. So, Mr Williams, if you would like to contact any of the above to check their veracity, or would like to have a copy of any of the letters they have sent me, again, to verify the truth of the above information regarding the recognition I have received over the years... just ask for any particular ones on the list, and I will send them to you post free. 3) Mr Williams reports: "I have found very few readings of interest since I have owned the device. And I want to find odd readings as well, to try and establish a clear causative link." It is a little contradictory to learn that although for some reason Mr Williams thinks that the TriField meter is "a toy", he has actually been using it to detect fields. However, a certain level of training and technical/scientific understanding is needed to use any field meter correctly, and it may be this that is lacking in Mr Williams' use of the TriField. Also, it is quite clear that he does not really want to find any unusual field readings as this begins to support my case. So with this pre-held bias, it really is not surprising that he reports that he has not detected anything unusual. Otherwise, his statements are very vague, and without knowing what it is that he is doing with the meter, it is difficult to comment or advise him. Is he aware for example, that these environmental fields are time-varying? That is to say that sometimes they are there and sometimes they are not; they are rarely constant. It is no good just visiting a "haunted" room once, wave the meter about a bit, and if nothing registers conclude that the location is not an EM hot spot. However, you do not seem to have grasped Mr Williams, that the presence of a hot spot in a case is a necessary, but not a sufficient condition, as far as evidence goes. SCIENTISTS, DOCTORS AND ACADEMICS. I can also refer you to others, who are either professors or have doctorates, who have stated in writing to me how they accept and endorse the Electromagnetic Pollution Approach. In some cases, scientists or psychologists have found the whole aspect of what I have discovered, a very fascinating breakthrough, because they themselves had previously worked on the same phenomena, are extremely familiar with them, but failed to discover the things I did. (e.g. Professor Kenneth Ring (psychology) who did find the incidence of electrical hypersensitivity in all of his "abductee" subjects many years before me, but did not link it with EM pollution in any way) EXPERIENCERS OR "ABDUCTEES". Then there are the letters from those who have in the past or are currently experiencing "alien abductions/visitations" themselves on an episodic basis, who have reported in their letters to me how they recognised themselves after reading about the personal histories and symptomatic parameters predicted in my books. These people are usually totally relieved that someone has finally found out what it is that has been weirdly shaping their lives for decades, in some cases bringing them close to suicide at times. To begin with then, just for Mr Williams' benefit, I will list their names and some details about them, and if he wishes to contact any of them personally to check up on their authenticity, I will then supply him with their addresses and/or telephone numbers at his request, (and their permission) as long as he assures me that he will not be offensive to them in any way because their opinions differ radically from his own, and that he will sign a legal declaration to ensure the confidentiality of experiencers, so that their privacy is not breached. In some cases this may not be required, as some "abductees" are now quite open about their experiences, now that they know what it is that is causing them. I can also send him copies of the letters sent to me from scientific researchers, professors, other academics and specialists in the same or similar fields of research who have written to congratulate me or to tell me how much of a breakthrough my approach represents. These options are all open to Mr Williams. Mr Williams seems to think that carrying out a complete field-survey (called a dosimetric survey) in order to detect EM hot spots is simpler than it really is. In actual fact, in many cases, the source of the environmental EM fields irradiating the home of the experiencer is frequently so obvious and blatant, that it is hardly necessary to carry out a full dosimetric survey to know that the location is a hot spot and has been irradiated on a long-term basis. However, a spectrum analyser is the ideal instrument for such a survey. Albert Budden. --[end of part 1/2]----- ========================== Forwarded message ends ========================