From wildfarm@... Wed Aug 01 17:51:10 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: wildfarm@... X-Apparently-To: mysterylights@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 2 Aug 2001 00:51:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 3193 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2001 23:50:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 Aug 2001 23:50:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pop03-srv.alltel.net) (166.102.165.149) by mta2 with SMTP; 1 Aug 2001 23:50:09 -0000 Received: from alltel.net ([166.102.66.10]) by pop03-srv.alltel.net with ESMTP id <20010801234708.JJQF20621.pop03-srv.alltel.net@...> for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 18:47:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3B68972D.8E50EE1C@...> Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 19:56:30 -0400 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mysterylights@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [mysterylights] Orbs References: <200108012038.WAA01228@...> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: carroll watts Thank you very much, Frits. This may not be they same type of orb, and I should have given more information, but I am very interested in this type of phenomena. I am a member of MUFON and have been since shortly after my son and I had a UFO fly directly overhead during the early seventies while on a duck hunt. This craft was less than five hundred feet away and absolutely noiseless. I have been a believer ever since. My son sent an e-mail about the orbs. He has an aquaintance who has had orbs show up in photos of him taken by his wife. They never appear in photos of his wife. I contacted a member of MUFON who has had a lot of paranormal experience and she says some people are orb attractors and some are not. She also told me that this type orb is believed to be energy left by someone deceased. I asked her if old home places were good spots to try photographing orbs. She said yes but old graveyards are better and the best luck she has heard of was the scene of an auto accident where people are killed but she could not bring herself to do this. They seem to show up best where there was a violent death. I have no experience in this but I do know of a few old homesites and cemetaries so I may give it a try. This kind of stuff fascinates me and I don't disbelieve anything anymore. Thanks, Carroll Frits Westra wrote: > On 1st August 2001, carroll watts wrote: > > >Has anyone had experience with the orbs that can show up on > >camera but are not seen with the naked eye? > > Hello Carroll, > > This is not a precise answer to your question, but I think it may be > relevant. > > In the fall of 1997, a number unidentified lights were sighted over a > rural area called "Twickel" in the east of the Netherlands. During this > "flap" the UFO Working Group Netherlands decided to established a study > group called Twickel Watch, of which I'm an investigator. Twickel Watch is > still active and is trying to find a satisfactory explanation for these > unidentified aerial light phenomena. > > One of the eyewitnesses of the Twickel Lights is a police officer, who > became a member/observer of Twickel Watch. His name is I.T. > > IT patrols the Twickel area on a daily basis. He has had a number of > sightings of light phenomena (LP), while on patrol in the Twickel area. > During night-time operations against poaching he uses a night vision > monocular. Note: this is not an infrared viewer, but an opto-electronic > device that works as an image intensifier. Night vision monoculars are > also widely in use by the military and are known for the greenish images > they produce. > > One night IT noticed, with the naked eye, a bright white, motionless, oval > shaped LP in the sky. He estimated that the distance between him and the > LP was four to five kilometers. After some seconds the LP suddenly went > out and wasn't visible anymore. Out of curiosity he took his night vision > monocular and trained it on the region in the sky where the LP had gone > out. To his astonishment the oval phenomenon appeared to be still there, > being visible only with the night vision monocular. After some seconds the > phenomenon suddenly illuminated, becoming bright white, and visible with > the naked eye again. Shortly after that, it's color changed into a very > deep red, and the LP shot straight up. According to IT, it was out of > sight within a second. > > IT has had several other sightings of this kind. His observations seem > to indicate that LP, sighted from some distance, can sometimes change > into non- or dim-luminous phenomena and reverse. > > Best wishes, > > Frits Westra -- fwestra@... > Twickel Watch > Netherlands > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > mysterylights-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/